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If I join in a Jama'at late, should I still start off with Thana (Subhanakallah Humma etc) or is it only required in the beginning?

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If I join in a Jama'at late, should I still start off with Thana (Subhanakallah Humma etc) or is it only required in the beginning?

If for some reason, you miss the invocations during the ruku in Jamat (i.e. you are too late going down and the Imam already say 'Sami Allah…..' etc, does that mean you have missed a rakah? What do you do in this situation?

 

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Ruku catches rakah

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Your Question: If I join in a Jama'at late, should I still start off with Thana (Subhanakallah Humma etc) or is it only required in the beginning?


The supplication/glorification one makes immediately after the ‘takbeer’ to signal the start of prayer in the first rakah is a Sunnah and supererogatory, and not an obligatory part of prayer like the recitation of Surah Fatihah, etc. Thus one who joins a congregation late may recite the supplication/glorification if he wills or abstain….it does not effect the validity of the prayer in the least.

 

Your Question: If for some reason, you miss the invocations during the ruku in Jamat (i.e. you are too late going down and the Imam already say 'Sami Allah…..' etc, does that mean you have missed a rakah? What do you do in this situation?


Fiqh-us-Sunnah Fiqh 2.54a

Whoever joins a congregation, he should perform the opening takbir while standing and then move directly to the act that the congregation may be performing, for instance, if the congregation is prostrating one should perform the opening takbir and then join it in the prostration. However, such a person is not considered as having performed the rak'ah unless he performs the ruku' (bowing) in congregation.

Abu Hurairah reports that the Messenger of Allah (saws) said: "If you come to the salah and we are in sajdah, then make sajdah with us but do not count it [as a rak'ah]. And whoever 'catches' the ruku', he catches the salah."

(Related by Abu Dawud, Ibn Khuzaimah, and al-Hakim.

 

If the ‘imam’ leading the congregation prayer has completed his ‘ruku’. raised his head and declared ‘Sameh Allaho leman hameda’, the one who joins the congregation at this stage should make the ‘takbeer’ and stand along with the congregation….but he would have deemed to miss that rakah which he should complete at the end of the prayer.

 

But if the ‘imam’ is still in the state of ‘ruku’ when one joins the congregation, and the worshipper is able to ‘catch’ the ‘ruku’ with the congregation, then he does not have to repeat that particular rakah again for the Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “whoever 'catches' the ruku', he catches the salah."

 

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